SPEAKER_00 0:05

Welcome to the Be Night Show with Sarah Bee Night, where she covers topics such as spirituality, investment, entrepreneurship, and personal performance. Her goal is to hopefully inspire you to reach your full potential while maintaining your equilibrium.

SPEAKER_01 0:26

Hi everybody, welcome back to the Be Night Show. This is Sarah. So pleased to be back. And I've got an interesting topic and a an expert on the topic. And today's topic, we're going to talk about the art of manifestation. And this is something I've been talking about with a few of my friends. And of course, I don't know about you listening, but some of us do struggle with this. And we thought, well, why not bring someone who can sort of share some of tips, some tips, and we take it from there. His name is David Molyneux, and uh he's someone I look up to. He's a spiritual teacher, he is an all-around nice person. Hi, welcome to the show, David.

SPEAKER_03 1:10

Well, thank you. That was a lovely introduction. Let's hope I could live up to that.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

Well, you didn't know that, did you? Now you know that with many of us look up to you. And I'm so pleased that you you are you are you're here with us. Like you honored the invitation, and um, yeah, happy to share with us, I hope.

SPEAKER_03 1:32

Yes, pleasure. Yes. So sorry. Yeah, I'm gonna say, please lead away. Lead away, so I won't try to follow.

SPEAKER_01 1:42

Probably two months ago, um of course I've seen you around for like a few years, but we never actually interacted like on a one-to-one, like on a certain left to a certain level, like we did like two years ago, but someone asked me if I knew the meaning of the Star of David. And this this took me like I didn't want to wait for too long. And I spoke to a couple of people, and someone pointed at you and said, Oh, well, you need to talk to David. He's the person who will help you with that. And ever since that conversation we had, like, I hardly remember any of the things you mentioned, but I remember it was quite deep. And I thought, oh wow, I didn't know he was this knowledgeable, you know. And so I thought I thought, well, he's someone I would find, I'd like to talk to a bit more and talk about explore different things. And obviously, some two other people say that you should talk to David. And if you do, make sure you get the juicy, juicy stuff out of him because he is he's not one to easily yeah, share.

SPEAKER_03 2:48

Oh, it's very interesting. Well, that's good. That's I like that because it means I don't like to sort of impose my belief system on anyone else unless they ask for for what my point of view on it on any issue is. But um, unless asked, I won't, yes, I tend to uh stay silent.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

Right. So just to go back from from the uh this Tower of David, as looking back then, I've always looked at it as a a symbol that points as above and so below. So to me, that's that's all I know about this Tower of David. Do you want to talk a little bit about that, or should we just get to our main topic? I know it's not the main topic tonight today.

SPEAKER_03 3:32

Yeah, I well, I can happily give you my my interpretation of the Star of David, and I think you're absolutely right, as far as I understand it, it's as above, so below. It's comprised of two triangles, of course. And so the two triangles merge together to create the star. But of course, the upper triangle is the upper worlds, I suppose you could say, and the lower triangle is the lower worlds, not yet the physical world, but the lower worlds of spiritual energy, and the the the point in the middle, the set dead center, is the is the physical world. So it kind of represents that diff those different energies, six energies, that together uh manifest the physical worlds and those spiritual worlds that we can we can reach potentially through our imagination or through our visualization or through our what's the other word um I was thinking of. Oh, it begins with an A and I've forgotten the word now. But it anyway, it regardless, it's it's really about how we can connect to those worlds, those invisible worlds, through through our energetic spiritual work. And and once you work once you connect to each of those six energies in in balance, then you create balance and harmony in your life, and then that's when life flows. Life doesn't flow for most of us, probably not any of us, but that's the aspiration, really, isn't it? To get to a place where we can allow life to flow.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

So that means that if, say, I have a star of David on, or even if I don't, but I sort of have that concept in my mind, knowing that I'm trying every day to connect the above and below and sort of find the middle, middle cent the center. Is that what is it more of having the consciousness of that? Or does does someone actually do something on a physical level to bring that flow into their lives?

SPEAKER_03 5:46

That's a great way. I like the way that's a great way you frame that because that at least like this is about I don't know, 10 questions at least coming out of what you've just said. No, that's good, it's good. I mean, one of the questions that comes up is what is that then what is consciousness? And which is probably very aligned to the topic of conversation, which is the art of manifestation. And do we oh, that was the word I was thinking of, affirmation. So through affirmation and thinking about the Star of David, is that going to connect us to that world? Or through a conscious connection or or through a bit the questions around that, I think the question that you're really posing with that is how can we effectively use the Star of David with within our lives, right? There's so many answers. I don't know, I'm trying to think now which which which angle to focus that one on. But I think maybe the best way of going about this is rather than talking about something ethereal or esoteric, which we can do intellectually, and it's not necessarily going to make any changes to our life. I mean, there's plenty of people who do affirmations and never see any change. And there's people people who do affirmations and see lots of changes. So, what you know, the question around that is why is the one person who's doing affirmations creating manifestation, and the other person who's doing the same affirmation creating no manifestation? And I think a lot of that comes down to how we connect to the spiritual worlds, how we connect to energy, and which which the Star of David represents. And there's a I'm gonna sort of jump across sorry, I left my phone on. I'm gonna turn that to silent. I'm gonna jump across to to more of a kind of uh a yogi or a yoga perspective because within the body there are recognized three channels of energy, and I think if I'm not mistaken, there's the peena, the the pingala, and the shun shun shuma. And these essentially these energy channels need to be energized to create this ability of mind of matter. So if you look at the star of David, you know, you've got two two points on either side, which are the extremities, and then two points in the middle, right? So the two points on either side represent two different energies that are aligned, and you need to, a person needs to energize those to create an awakening and an opening of the central channel, which is in other modalities is called kundalini energy or the awakening of kundalini and so forth. That's represented by the two points which are in the middle of the Star of David. So without that, without the mat without being in the body, without taking your mind into the body, you can meditate and you can do affirmations, but nothing will change because you haven't created the energization of the body that will create the manifestation.

SPEAKER_01 9:35

Right. So you pretty much haven't uh turned on that engine, you haven't like ignited that engine to actually bring those things into like to sort of bring them into what physical physic physical world.

SPEAKER_03 9:52

Yes, because you know there's you know, Einstein. I don't know if you know the famous story of Einstein.

SPEAKER_02 9:59

Which one?

SPEAKER_03 9:59

You know, I you know the the scientist. Oh, this the same story, yeah. So yeah, so he so there's a story goes around where you know kids went to go and see Einstein and they asked him, you know, how can we be like you, this this famous inventor, and create these famous theories that people will use and and develop and and create whatever they create for them. And he said to them, Well, just read fairy tales. And you think, what's a crazy answer? I mean, this is a guy who came up with uh E equals M C squared, relative theory, and so forth. A lot of science, which is still based on his work, and yet he tells kids to read fairy stories. Why? The reason is because of the power of the imagination. We don't recognize the power of the imagination, we don't recognize that the imagination is the manifesto, we don't recognize that you know the physical world, scientifically proven now, is the illusion. And therefore, because physical reality is comprised of thought consciousness, we don't yet, we not yet grasp the idea that through thought consciousness we can control you know physical physical reality. So therefore, we need a tool, we need to, we need our our you know, if we're not in the bodies, if we're in our heads all the time, and I know this as a Gemini, because Gemini is in ASI, so Geminis are definitely not in their head, if the the the the the body just goes off on its own, you know, it does its own thing. You know, it's not it it's not being managed, for want of a better word, to manifest.

SPEAKER_01 12:03

Do you know what? When you talk about, I don't know if you know about the Einstein, the letter he wrote to his daughter towards his final days, and he's right.

SPEAKER_03 12:13

I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

Okay, so there's this letter that was discovered, I think it's somewhere in in Israel or something, but um he it was discovered after he transitioned. He wrote to his daughter saying that if he talked about love as the energy that feels everything positive, and if there's one thing, and he wishes he knew, he knew this, this is the only one thing he would teach people or share with people that if you focus, if your focus is on love, everything else will come like because we're we are love and we're made of love, but it's so beautifully written, and how he explains it as an energy, uh the biggest force we have in this world. So when you talk about this, his fairy tale, and I'm thinking about love, and I'm thinking, okay, we probably might have cracked the chord here.

SPEAKER_03 13:05

Yeah, that's it's it's but it is an energy, and uh, you know, it reminds me of a Frankie Gusta Hollywood song, you know, The Power of Love. You know, it's in that song, but but it is an energy, and it's an energy that that we get distracted from, and we you know often don't allow ourselves, you know, to feel initially feel love for ourselves and then feel love for other people. But it's easy for us to sit here and talk about that intellectually, very, very difficult for most of us, because it's it means living 24 or 7 second by second, really, doesn't it? Because as soon as you go into the head, you've really lost that connection.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

But what if you need to go into the head to sort of remind yourself for a period of time to sort of create because obviously at some point you have to create a habit, but in in order to create the habit, you have to keep reminding yourself, and then hopefully after a few weeks, months, or years, you find yourself that you don't have to live there in the mind. Now you can you have become that thing, you have become love, you have become, you live in this world of fairy tale.

SPEAKER_03 14:23

I don't know, I'm just no, I think that's a great I think that's a great point because what you're saying really, and that's where consciousness comes into it now, isn't it? Because what you're saying is you've used your mind, uh which you have to, so you have to go into the head, but then you've used your heart and your gut, which of course a lot of people now call the second brain, and then you've slowly then developed a change, a shift in your thoughts, words, or actions, and then that then modifies the consciousness. So when a situation or event transpires, you react differently because your consciousness then is different to how it was before when you first decided to change whatever it was you felt you needed to change.

SPEAKER_01 15:17

Right. Going back to the affirmations, do you think when some of us do affirmations, we sort of miss out on these other things, the the feeling of it, the the fairy tale thinking, the the bringing everything. Do you think we just because I feel like myself included, I find I find it really doing affirmations, although I have friends who swear by them and they go like my life has changed because of affirmations, but I don't feel connected to them. And I think it's probably it's probably mostly in the head, like I'm probably I I think that's the thing, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 15:57

You have to connect the affirmation to your being, you have to be it. So you have to be the affirmation, and and those people, and I've met people like that who who can do I I remember meeting somebody who was so connected, you know, that they could more or less just ask for things, and those things came. Like King Cosha, which is you had a which is amazing.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

You had a King Oshaw. He used to literally sit there and he would get pentalys, he would get things that just brought to him just by him thinking about things, and the word there like within like in a space of minutes or hours.

SPEAKER_03 16:39

Yeah, and of course that is absolutely possible, I believe. And well, the science, I think the science proves it to some extent now. Um by the way, I'm a massive I can't help it. I read new scientists every week from cover to cover. I can't help myself, you know, because I'm always new new scientists.

SPEAKER_01 17:00

Where where does one find that?

SPEAKER_03 17:03

Oh, it's a it's a magazine, it's a journal, it comes out every week, and they have some fascinating articles written by scientists on consciousness, on brain power, all kinds of different, interesting, I mean, genuinely, and it's not so highbrow that you can't read it if you were interested. It's it's fairly straightforward to read. Yeah, it comes out every Thursday, by the way. So that's because that person has has been able to remove the blockages, you know. We are we carry blockages, you know, in our in our chakras, in our uh meridians, in our acupressure points, you know. We and I mean if if you've ever done any yoga, you know, you can sort of breathe your way into these places, and you can feel a lot of it, it's interesting because we're talking about getting yourself into the body and getting yourself into manifestation. A lot of the muscles in the body through trauma, yeah, through sadness, through any negative emotional feeling, can go into contraction. And when they're in contraction, then the fascia tightens and then the energy that then would normally root its way through the meridians and the chakras, the energy can't flow anymore. So therefore, if the energy can't flow because we're holding on to past traumas or sadness from the past, we we won't be able to manifest as well.

SPEAKER_04 18:58

Right.

SPEAKER_03 18:59

Because the energy, you know, that that energy of receiving and giving cannot travel and cannot move throughout our energy systems. And I think that will change. I think we're we're starting to move more from you know a biocellular. I mean it's very interesting you look at evolution, isn't it? Because if you look at evolution.

SPEAKER_01 19:24

If if that can happen on a cellular level, that say obviously we do inherit cells from pre from uh the pre previous generations, if they've experienced that sort of thing, the trauma or that thing in within their cells, is can that also affect the next generation? Like, can we inherit that? Because I'm thinking sometimes we may not even be able to remember that on um on that level of okay, this happened to me, this this is why I feel this way, but this is why I'm blocked. But is it possible that we carry that from from on a cellular level from the previous I believe so, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:02

I mean, uh, you know, I believe there is uh you know a you know a DNA component, or if you like a spiritual DNA component, but the only way that we can transform that is move into an electromagnetic consciousness, which is it which is the removal of blockages, which is the uh the the the allowance of that energy to flow through our various energy channels and and create that transformation within. But I mean when I say electromagnetic energy, of course I'm talking about cosmic energies, which we're all influenced by, but also magnetic influences, which we're all influenced by, which are terrestrial, which are of the earth. So until we learn to manage those, and and of course I'm an engineer, so I think to some extent, in respect to the tech technological parts of it, I have a bit of an advantage. So I understand power, I understand electromagnetic forces, I mean that was that was all in my engineering apprenticeship. So I understand how voltage and current and current flow and all that kind of stuff works. I think it's quite probably a bit more difficult for somebody who hasn't had that technological background to kind of maybe understand it so much. But if you think about electricity and power, that really is the a lot of the cause over everything else. So if you think of that, if you think about it in the body, and if we're able to control energy, which is essentially electromagnetic, but that electromagnetic force is still only the carrier, through thought consciousness, we Can influence that energy, we're then able then to modify and change ourselves at a cellular level. It's but I say this with great caution because it's easy again to talk about it. It's a lifetime of work.

SPEAKER_01 22:20

I believe so.

SPEAKER_03 22:21

To to to achieve this. I believe so.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

When you talk about obviously you you you're from an engineering background, but I'm saying, for example, I the little bit I know is from reading different spiritual magazines, from spiritual different spiritual outlets, and I've come to understand um that uh the body or look at the body as you what did you call it? Uh the is it a transformer from your point of view?

SPEAKER_03 22:53

Yeah, it's an electromagnetic in fact I think even in medicine now they're starting to look at uh treating people in a different way. But yeah, it's an it's it's it's an electromagnetic force, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

So the one thing I've learned, or one of the things I've learned is to sort of connect, reconnect myself to to earth, to mother earth, or by going to the fields or somewhere in the park, take my shoes off, step on the ground, and sort of re-energize myself, or even going in the green. And I understand now why it feels so good to go in the park because I don't know if you're aware of the the frequencies, and this is a topic I love so much, and uh uh the the trees have the same frequency as as love and that sort of thing. So yes, I I sort of get that from that point of view, and I hope maybe our listeners are able to find something that they can anchor themselves from from away from the from the inch because not all of us are engineers, but to find something to find a term that is easy for them to sort of use, it could be it could be anything, it could be a battery, like you look at yourself as a battery that that's rechargeable and how you can recharge that. But then again, going back to we're talking about blockages and yoga. You did mention yoga, and some people will say, I don't know, I cannot do yoga. It's because honestly, I've spoken to a few people who think yoga is for a certain type of people, shape of people, and some people think, oh no, it's not for me, you have to be a certain size to do yoga. Yeah, away from that, what else can someone do? Away from the grounding and the yoga.

SPEAKER_03 24:38

Very, very good points. Very, very good points. Well, first of all, I'd like just to sort of pick up about the the bit about walking in in the park and connecting to the earth in that sense. Of course, over the last 30, 40, 50 years, of course, we've all turned to wearing rubber-sole shoes, whether it's in whatever footwear it is, of course, the old leather footwear used to allow us a connection to the earth. So we've all become insulated from the earth. So that energy, that negative energy, has got no way of draining away.

SPEAKER_04 25:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:18

But I have a few, I have a few suggestions if people want to try it, and I promise you, if you do this, you will feel energy tingle out of your feet. If you lie on the bed at night or any time of the day, and you lie there and you tap your feet together, if you can imagine that. So you're lying there, you're tapping your feet together, and you're breathing into the belly button or the diaphragm, do that for ten minutes, you will feel a discharge of energy. Now, if you do that, if you do that at night, for example, before you go to sleep, because your mind is in turmoil, you're thinking about this, you're thinking about that, you're trying to understand why somebody at work said something not very nice to you, or you're thinking about the next day and it's a lot it's challenging, and so you know, consequently, all the typical things that most people go through at night before they go to sleep. If you just say, okay, I'm going to just lie here and for the next however long I can sustain it, but no more than say 10 minutes, I'm just going to tap my feet together. What is happening is that you're creating a flow.

SPEAKER_04 26:39

Right.

SPEAKER_03 26:40

And the head is fire energy. And so when the head gets into itself and starts to rustle along with all these different thoughts and ideas, it's creating more fire. And you want to cool that fire down, the stomach is water energy.

SPEAKER_04 27:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:02

So by tapping the feet together, what you're doing is you are heating up the water energy in the stomach. As we know, water expands when it's heated, or rises when it becomes steep, that then goes up to the head, it cools the head down, and it cools the fire energy down, and then you create this flow of energy between the stomach or the second brain and the head brain. And that that then this creates a potentially a discharge of energy that really isn't isn't needed, and is creating all these circular thoughts, which you're just if you don't do anything like that and don't discharge anything, energy, you're just you're just you know creating more fire energy, and and therefore you end up having a really bad night's sleep.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

This is so beautifully put because um I've always looked at the stomach and the head from a different point of view. Obviously, I understand the stomach keeps is the center of the nervous system and it sends messages to the head and everything, but I've never seen it from a point of view of fire and water, and how these two sort of can exchange energies and how they can sort of balance them each other out. So, yeah, I'm learning quite a few things here as it is.

SPEAKER_03 28:30

Try it, try it. You know what? It's a great feeling because if you've done it say five or ten minutes and then you stop, you feel the bottom of your feet tingle like crazy.

SPEAKER_02 28:42

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 28:42

You really feel it tingling, it's really it's all the energy being discharged. Because energy, you know, going back to the part scenario and the leather shoes, uh, sorry, the rubber shoe thing, that energy's got nowhere to go. You know, you just become a battery of energy that's not being discharged, both positive and negative energy. So you really want to try and find a way of coping mechanism of you know, before you go to sleep at night, you know, sort of discharging that energy. And there's many other tools to do that. I'm just giving you a physical one. I mean, you can you can meditate, you can go through the day, you you can allow yourself the feeling of forgiving an individual or forgiving yourself if you've you've done something wrong by somebody else. But what I'm really giving you is here is something a bit more physically practical.

SPEAKER_04 29:34

Right.

SPEAKER_03 29:35

You can still do all the other things that you might do, but it's it's a really good way of uh, as I say, discharging that that energy. I mean, there are, I don't know if you've come across these stores now, but there are stores where you can buy a sheet that goes under the mattress or goes on under the sheet at least, with with uh an earth earth wire, and you plug it into an electrical socket and it's supposed to earth you. I've never tried one, it probably does the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 30:02

Okay, that's interesting.

SPEAKER_03 30:04

But you could buy them online.

SPEAKER_01 30:06

That's interesting. I'm also thinking wondering, uh, do you do you reckon that's what breath does, that when we do like deep breathing, in and out, in and out.

SPEAKER_03 30:17

It's it's really important deep breath work. Because breath work is if if once you become adept at it, it moves energy around the body, and through breath work you can find your blockages. Most people in the West are blocked in their first and second chakras.

SPEAKER_01 30:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 30:39

And in the first and second chakras, which is basically, you know, the the first chakra for those who are not quite, you know, a fay with chakras, they're a series of seven energy centers from the top of the head to the boss to the base of the spine. So the first chakra is at the base of the spine around the perennium, and the second chakra is a couple of inches below the belly bottom. And so these what these what happens when the bottom tighten up the diaphragm, it's it tightens up. So, but these are important chakras because they are going back to the topic of the conversation, they are the manifestation chakras.

SPEAKER_01 31:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 31:23

As well. And if you don't have energy flowing through these chakras, again, it's very, very difficult to manifest. So, breath work is very good. And and another exercise that your listeners might want to try, and again, very simple, if they don't like yoga or they're not interested in yoga, or I mean, lots of good reasons why a person might not want to do yoga. A very good one is to breathe in and out from the diaphragm or from the belly button. Now, of course, you can't physically breathe in and out through the belly button, but we're talking about breath work here.

SPEAKER_04 32:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:04

And and so, and then if you want to take that a step further, you can sit there and then you can use your the the tips of your fingers and push in and out just either side of the belly button.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 32:19

And if you just keep pushing in and out like that, what happens is you keep doing it, and that's my voice sounds a bit strange right now because I'm doing it. You keep doing it, and what this by what this does is it it releases a lot of contraction around the diaphragm.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

I can already feel that.

SPEAKER_03 32:36

Yeah, it releases a lot of contraction around the diaphragm. What then happens is the organs of the body, the kidneys, the liver, the heart, the lungs, and so forth, they also start to relax. And then they release a lot of, again, negative energies. And then by releasing those energies, which are blockages, then again you can find that energy starts to flow. And I really recommend, you know, for a person sitting at a computer all day, if you can give yourself every hour, it might look a bit strange to your co-workers if you're sitting in an open plan office.

unknown 33:18

You might want to explain what you're doing.

SPEAKER_03 33:20

But but if you if you sit there and you know you you you you push your diaphragm in and out with your fingertips, at the same time, try to breathe or visualize breathing from the belly button. Again, that will that breath work and that um physical work of using you know your fingers against the uh two sides of the belly button will create, will relax you and again take a lot of that fire energy out of the head so you can start, you know, you can start to think a bit more clearly, and then and also you know, it you your energy is back in the body again, so you can start to manifest and more start to flow a bit more easily.

SPEAKER_01 34:09

Right. So why do you why do you think, or why did you say that most people in the west are blocked in the first and second chakra? Is it because they do they sit a lot, they don't do a lot of exercise?

SPEAKER_03 34:24

Yeah, I think it's that. I think it's emotional as well. You know, there is, you know, we're not as I've got to be careful what I say here, haven't I? Very you know, we're a we we we we are we we're a society that tend has in the past, I suppose, tended to suppress our desire or or suppress our emotions and a lot of maybe not desire so much, but certainly feelings and emotions, and and they tend to you know reside in the sort of first and second chakras, really. And um, you know, there's there's I mean if anybody wanted to Google, you know, you you could simply Google first, second chakra blockages, and you know, they'd find a whole host of information there about what tend I mean, don't want to get people hung up on these things because one of the one of the key points about spiritual work is to transform. And I think sometimes the danger is when you say, Oh, go to these places, and the person goes, Oh, well, that's why I'm like that, and suddenly they become they create a whole new reason for victimizing themselves. Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_01 35:42

And to justify why they are doing the things that they're doing. Now I've got a reason why I'm like this. It's not me, it's this thing.

SPEAKER_03 35:50

It's this thing, yeah. So you just gotta be very careful with that.

SPEAKER_01 35:55

I knew it. So the other thing I'm thinking about is food. Like, is there some foods you recognize some foods that can assist in the process of being more energized and hence like creating more energy within the body?

SPEAKER_03 36:11

I think that's an individual thing. I I uh one of something I I've really not been very good doing this, right? But something technique that somebody told me years ago was to find out for yourself whether your body likes it or not. And that takes a moment to pause and then just hold you know that item, say it's an apple, and you know, close to your stomach and sit and just seeing if you're you you know what reaction you get. I think most people are probably not sensitive to do that. Yeah, I'm not sensitive enough, I haven't developed that sensitive sensitivity yet to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02 36:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:53

And and with regard to I would say the energy work is is because one of the things about you know the right diet and the right food and so on is it's not gonna do a great deal if you're full of you know toxic feelings and emotions, you know. It's it's it's it it's helpful. And I think that's that that's the first uh area to try to try to address really, but it's very difficult. You know, it's uh it's it's not an easy thing to uh to address. But you know, with simple breath work, I th I I would say that that was the right way to go. And and then maybe through the breath work, then you can discover for yourself what works for you in terms of you know the foods that you should be eating and so forth. I think it's you know, again, it's it's one of the greatest healers is you know the three things that you know, joy, happiness, and acceptance, isn't it? I mean, if you if you if you can get to a place where something happens to you and you can either accept it and be happy about it, or you can be joyful about it, then you've really done the work because you know you you you're in that state of manifestation. Um if somebody now pushes you out of the way as you get onto the tube, how do you react to it? I never get I never hit those three levels. That's an aspiration.

SPEAKER_02 38:32

Oh well.

SPEAKER_03 38:32

If I could just get to acceptance, I'd be very happy. Uh but you know it's a few.

SPEAKER_01 38:37

No, I thought I threw everything out of the window. I'm like, what what did you just do? How dare you? Why did you hold it?

SPEAKER_03 38:53

But then that's that's that's the key, isn't it? Because if you you can only really accept something like that, yes, if you can understand that uh like Einstein, you know, kind of postulated, the physical world is an illusion.

SPEAKER_01 39:10

It is.

SPEAKER_03 39:11

Right? Then you can accept it.

SPEAKER_01 39:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:14

But if but that's that's the kind of that zooming in and out, isn't it? Like that's that's actually going between the head and the body, isn't it? That's going that again again, that's art manifestation. If I'm in the head, am I in the body, you know, what's reacting right now is my mind reacting, is my body reacting, and you know. But we most of us don't are not in that place where we live so much so presently that we can have that, even have that conversation in ourselves at that time.

SPEAKER_01 39:39

Yeah, and so um as we begin to wind down, I'm thinking we we talked about forgiveness, which is very, very something we all probably need to do every day. And I'm thinking, how often should someone do that? Some people talk about doing it on a daily basis, like every evening, to think about the things or people, things you need to forgive yourself of, and the people you need to forgive. And others wait until maybe a certain time of the year, and they'll sit down and go, like, this is it. I need forgiveness from ABCD, and other people do it maybe on a weekly basis.

SPEAKER_02 40:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:16

What do you think would be the good balance? Obviously, everyone will have to find like what works for them, but what do you reckon would be the good balance to to proceed to yeah, to do that process of forgiveness?

SPEAKER_03 40:31

I have a story actually that might illustrate this.

SPEAKER_01 40:34

I love your story.

SPEAKER_03 40:35

I remember I remember a few years, I remember a few years ago I went with a friend to Los Angeles, and we were traveling from Los Angeles to San Diego, and there was a healer that I knew of. Uh and I said to her, let's go and see this healer. She's like, and I can't remember the heal the name of the healing now, but it's a type of healing she developed. And she lived on a ranch, and between in in in California, between Los Angeles and San Diego. So I had in my head all these visions of how wonderful this ranch would look, mainly influenced by you know TV shows and films, I should think.

SPEAKER_04 41:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:16

Anyway, we got to this ranch, and it was a place you wouldn't want to stay. It was full of all these rundown buildings and bunk houses. Oh a woman came out and she she had a lot of um interest in Native American Indians and their healing techniques. She had dirty fingernails. And my friend, she said, There's no way I'm having a session with this. And she appeared mad and she was taking us around the ranch and showing us different Indian markings and so on. So I said, Well, I've come all this while I'm going to a healing session, yeah. So I went in, I went on to her, she had had um, you know, these I think it was a map type of massage bed or whatever. And we I got into the room and suddenly in this room she changed. She became a different person and she almost like she read me, and she said, um, she said, look out the window there, David. And she had all these horses in a paddock, I suppose you call it. And she said, you know, it's very interesting. I watch my horses, and at night, what they do is they just shake, they just shake everything off. Every experience, every difficult moment that they've had during the day, they just shake it off, and then they can sleep. And that never left me.

unknown 42:59

And and I think so.

SPEAKER_03 43:01

It's a long-winded answer to your question, but I think the key to staying physically and emotionally healthy as far as one can, because obviously there's lots of difficult situations that people have to go through, is that that forgiveness at the end of the day, I think forgiveness and and a bigger part of taking stock of your life at the end of the day, is is is key to that. And I I grew up with that. I grew up a Catholic, and so you know, we'd end up sitting or kneeling at the end of the bed every night and doing the Lord's Prayer. It's the same thing. It's a kind of a letting go, yeah, it's a shaking off in a way, shaking off of the energy of the day so that you can go to sleep refreshed and revigorated for the next day, hopefully with a you know a clearer consciousness, you can. Possibly Yeah, and I think that I notice the difference.

SPEAKER_01 44:06

If I go to bed and I do the toe tapping, I think I'm going to try tonight. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 44:14

I wake up so much fresher and so much more energized than if I didn't do it.

SPEAKER_01 44:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:21

So that's that's my understanding of it.

SPEAKER_01 44:24

I can imagine I was thinking the momentum, I think when you say that uh every day you shake something, well, it's good to shake like the house that shakes the energy off. I believe at the end of the day, we would have this is my personal belief that would have collected a lot of things and we sort of create a momentum for the day. So when we go to bed, we sort of stop that momentum. And maybe I like to take stock of how the day has been without even thinking about tomorrow because I don't want to carry today's energy into tomorrow, but I reflect on the day, and then I release that day, mentally just release that day, and I imagine that these angels were taking away whatever I've released to go to recycle it into something positive.

SPEAKER_02 45:11

So that's lovely. I like that. I'm gonna try that. That sounds like a lovely way of doing it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:17

And you actually with time with time, you you you actually feel like there is some some energy taking being taken away. And obviously, we know about angels, that the more we connect with them, the more they do stuff for us. So I'm like, okay, if they're there to do something, I might as well give them something to do.

SPEAKER_02 45:37

Yeah, yeah, lovely.

SPEAKER_01 45:40

And although I must admit, there are days where where you just crush and you forget to like you like you know you want to do this, but you crush, and I notice the difference that in the morning the energy is different as opposed to when you actually released at the end of the day. Beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 45:57

And then I think you've got to forgive yourself, yeah. If you don't do it, yes, don't beat yourself up about it.

SPEAKER_01 46:02

There is meditation. I don't know, is it hippo, hippo something, something for I love myself, I forgive myself. Hippo that oh, you know the one I'm talking about. I love you, I forgive you, I did uh please forgive me. It's it's a self-forgiveness.

SPEAKER_03 46:22

Yeah. Yeah. I know I know I couldn't resize it, but I know I'll make it.

SPEAKER_01 46:28

Yeah, it's it's it's also another if somebody's not able to verbalize anything or they're really tired, it's something you someone can play in the background. Yeah, and it's sort of, I believe, it plays in the in the back of the mind. Any final words you'd like to leave to leave our listeners today, David? I know you have a lot to do, and I appreciate you taking out the time.

SPEAKER_03 46:52

No, I one thing, just if if nothing else, try the toe tapping.

SPEAKER_01 46:57

Of course.

SPEAKER_03 46:58

When you go to sleep, try the toe tapping. It's such a practical, useful activity to discharge anyone any energy. If it's nothing else, try that.

SPEAKER_01 47:11

Beautiful. I'm tempted to call this the toe tapping experience. Thank you so much, David. It's been lovely catching up with you, and I hope to see you around soon.

SPEAKER_03 47:27

Oh no, it's been really, I've really enjoyed everything. I did wonder what I might say, but I seem to be able to. You seem to have I didn't have too much to say, but thank you for the opportunity.

SPEAKER_01 47:37

No, you did. You did. You saved what was, yeah. You you you you took it a different way, and I'm so glad that we did this.

SPEAKER_03 47:45

Thank you. No, it's been a pleasure. Wonderful.

SPEAKER_00 47:49

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